Hiking in Europe Vs The States: Lindsey Bybee Shares Her Experience

Lindsey (00:00)
One thing I’ve heard a lot of my friends say that have more hiking experience in the States is we are spoiled in Europe with like the established restaurants along the trail. Like you will go hiking up a trail and there will be a full on restaurant serving you hot food, cold drinks, ice cream.

I feel like it makes it less daunting to think about, I’m going to go out hiking all day I know there’s going to be a restaurant up there, so I just make sure to have some cash on me. I can get everybody an ice cream and we can sit down and take a break, have some spaghetti, whatever. Like that part is really, really nice.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (00:42)
Hello and welcome to season two of Her Side of the Trail. Whether you’re a new listener or you’re coming here from season one, I really appreciate your support. It means everything.

Now, let’s talk about this episode. I am speaking with Lindsay Bybee. She is an American citizen who currently lives in Turkey, but she has lived in other countries in Europe, including Georgia, Ukraine and Germany. I wanted to talk to her about the differences and similarities between hiking here in the States versus overseas. And some of them are pretty distinct.

And some things I wish we could bring over here to the States. There’s a few things over in Europe I would love to have here in the States, so we’ll get into that. Lindsay has been getting out on the trail with her three kids, but also, you know, doing like some girlfriend trips. So you’ll hear all about that on this episode. And so if you’re planning a trip overseas or you’re just curious in general what it’s like to hike in Europe, this is the episode for you. So let’s get into it.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (01:41)
hello, Lindsay. Thank you for joining me today to talk about hiking abroad because you are the Abroad Wife So I’m so excited to talk to you about hiking overseas.

Lindsey (01:49)
Thanks for having me. I’m excited to be here.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (01:51)
you are the abroad wife on Instagram. So to me, that means you’ve lived in many different countries. Even since I’ve been following you, you’ve lived in a couple of different countries. How many countries have you lived in and where do you live now?

Lindsey (01:54)
Yes. Yes.

Yeah.

So I think we’re at five countries now, including the United States. We’ve lived in Germany, Georgia, Ukraine, and then Germany a second time, but now we live in Turkey.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (02:19)
A lot of differences between those countries,

Lindsey (02:19)
Yeah, for sure.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (02:23)
I have you on here because you’re a hiker, you’re out with the kids hiking. Is that something that you did growing up as a child?

Lindsey (02:29)
Yeah, so actually my family did like to hike. ⁓ When I was a kid, they did take us out hiking and I remember not enjoying it. That’s kind of like my childhood association with hiking. I wasn’t super into it, but we did it. And then I had a long break before I kind of got back into hiking. I was actually telling my husband today, like if somebody had told me five years ago, I was going to be

interviewed for a hiking podcast, I would have like laughed in their face because it wasn’t really something I got into until we moved to Garmisch, Germany. ⁓ And for people who don’t know, that’s like in the German Alps. You’re right at the base of mountains. So once we moved there, that’s kind of what ⁓ got me connected with hiking again. And now I really enjoy it.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (03:04)
Okay.

almost like a requirement living there that you go hiking, right? ⁓

Lindsey (03:19)
Yeah, I mean

if you don’t you’ll be kind of bored because everything that there is to do there revolves around being outside, hiking ⁓ and being in the outdoors.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (03:24)
you

I love places like that. It’s like almost like my my in-laws, they live in Colorado they went they went out there and they’re like, OK, we’re hikers now.

Lindsey (03:38)
Yeah, yeah,

was worried that I wouldn’t enjoy Garmish very much. People told me that I would love it, but at the time I didn’t feel outdoorsy enough to like really enjoy it. But once I got there and just kind of got going and got into it, I mean, I fell in love.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (03:42)
Mm-hmm.

I think there’s this like persona that people feel like they have to like have to be like an outdoorsy person. And meanwhile, I’m like, no, just strap on some shoes and go outside. You’re an outdoorsy person.

Lindsey (04:02)
Yeah.

Yes, yes, I agree with

that. It kind of has, it feels a little bit intimidating at first, like, oh, you know, I’m not as hardcore as all these people, but you really don’t have to be. just about like being outside and enjoying yourself.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (04:21)
Yeah,

definitely, definitely. Well, I’m glad you figured that out when you were living there, because now you’ve been doing all these crazy hikes with the kids. you have been hiking with the kids. Now, how many children do you have? OK.

Lindsey (04:25)
Thanks. Me too.

Yeah. We have three children and

they’re now 12, 10, and 6. And when we first moved to Garmage, which is when we really got into hiking, they were 2, 6, and 8.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (04:39)
Okay.

Okay,

so you got them out on the trails right away. What else? Yeah.

Lindsey (04:49)
Yeah, I mean, we didn’t really have another option. mean, we

didn’t live near family, so it wasn’t like we could call, you know, somebody to watch the kids for us while we went out. So it was like, well, if we want to do it, we have to get them to do it too. So we drug them around with us.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (05:03)
Did you have the little one in like a carrier or did they handle the trails on their own?

Lindsey (05:08)
No, we

never got a carrier. That’s just one thing that we always kind of, by the time we thought like, should we get one of those? We were kind of on the edge of like needing it. He was already two and a half and happy to walk a bit. So we’re like, do we really want to invest in one of these backpacks? And so we were like, nah, we don’t need that. So he walked ⁓ a lot of the ways and we would do easy stuff. And then if we did something that got

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (05:22)
Yeah.

Lindsey (05:36)
A little bit too long for him, my husband would throw him up on his shoulders and that’s how we managed.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (05:39)
Yeah, throw them up on their shoulders.

That’s a good way to do it though. I know my son at two and a half would not sit in a carrier. There’s no way.

Lindsey (05:48)
Yeah,

it’s kind of dependent, right? Like if your kid likes it, great, but if they’re too antsy or want to be out and free, sometimes that’s better.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (05:50)
Yeah.

I’m like my daughter who is 12 now, I think would still be in a carrier if we could put her in. She’d be like, wait, wait, get me on your back. Let’s do this. ⁓

Lindsey (06:01)
Yeah, probably mine too. Yeah, my daughter is

definitely our most reluctant hiker, so she would probably take that option too.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (06:11)
That kind of drives me to the next

question though. So challenges, we all have challenges getting the kids out hiking. Have you faced any certain challenges with that?

Lindsey (06:21)
Yeah. yeah. I mean,

probably what most parents face, you know, they don’t want to go. It’s boring. They rather play with their friends or whatever. ⁓ I mean, yeah, they’ve, they’ve told us all those things and you know, they’re not always like, woohoo, we get to go hiking today. ⁓ a lot of times it takes a lot more coaxing or, ⁓ motivation as I like to say slash bribery. ⁓ but.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (06:40)
Yeah. ⁓

Yeah, I was gonna say food snacks, right?

Lindsey (06:50)
Gummy bears work really well. ⁓ But

yeah, mean, we just kind of, you know, we don’t, try not to let that stop us in our tracks because we know it’s good for them. It’s good for us. Once you get out there, most of the time they are fine.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (07:00)
Yeah.

I always feel like I get the resistance before we leave. And then once we’re out on the trail, then they kind of start to relax and then, and then they enjoy it. Yeah. Especially when they can see all the fun things along the way, all the different animals and plants and views and stuff and rocks, you know, if we can climb rocks, we’re good to go.

Lindsey (07:08)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Yeah, be mellow into it and keep going.

Yeah.

For sure. Rocks and sticks. Somehow still

very entertaining.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (07:30)
So have you hiked in every country that you’ve lived in then? Or you said you grew up hiking in the US a little bit against your will. Yes.

Lindsey (07:35)
Well, yeah, so yeah, against my will, just like my kids, know, it comes full circle. ⁓ In

Ukraine, we really didn’t do any hiking. We lived in the capital city and my kids were like, I just had two, but they were little at that time and it was kind of like survival. So we weren’t really doing hiking then. ⁓ My husband and I did a little, like a few hikes in Georgia. ⁓

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (07:53)
Gotcha.

Lindsey (08:04)
And then of course, when we lived in Germany, we traveled around, you know, the Alps and did a lot of hiking in different countries around there. And we’re trying to find some things here in Turkey too.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (08:14)
have you noticed any big differences between hiking overseas versus hiking in the US? Like I always feel like we’re very, you know, because we’re very litigious society. So we have a lot of like safety things in place. But I just wasn’t sure if you noticed the difference or is it pretty similar no matter what?

Lindsey (08:25)
yes.

Yeah. ⁓

To be honest, my hiking experience in the States is pretty limited. What I’ll say about hiking in places like Germany, Austria, Switzerland, ⁓ the trails are extremely well maintained. There’s signs everywhere saying, this point, how long it’s gonna probably take you to walk one hour, two hours. ⁓ There’s gondolas everywhere. So a lot of times you can, yeah, either.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (08:49)
Okay.

that’s nice, yeah.

Even better. Yeah.

Lindsey (09:03)
hike up and gondola down or

the opposite, take the gondola up and then start hiking from there.

One thing I’ve heard a lot of my friends say that have more hiking experience in the States is definitely we are spoiled in Europe with like the established restaurants along the trail. Like you will go hiking up a trail and there will be a full on restaurant serving you hot food, cold drinks, ice cream. There’s oftentimes playgrounds. It’s so nice because

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (09:28)
That is incredible.

Lindsey (09:33)
I feel like it makes it less daunting to think about, I’m going to go out hiking all day and I have to pack snacks for five people to last us that whole time when I know, right. It’s like, well, I know there’s going to be a restaurant up there, so I just make sure to have some cash on me. I can get everybody an ice cream and we can sit down and take a break, have some spaghetti, whatever. Like that part is really, really nice.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (09:41)
Make sure you have enough water. Yeah.

That

is so incredible. think it’s in New Hampshire, but I believe there is like on one of the trails in New Hampshire, there’s like a soup hut. Like you can go up and you can get some hot soup, which I’m like, that’s a dream. Thank you.

Lindsey (10:06)
yeah.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (10:09)
So no, think,

Lindsey (10:10)
so from what I can

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (10:13)
no, no, I think that needs to be, yeah, I think that it’s a missed business opportunity here in the States for sure.

Lindsey (10:11)
that’s not as much a thing in the States. You know, I don’t really remember seeing that. It should be a thing, right? It’s so great. For real. Yeah, people would

make a lot of money. People are definitely willing to give you money for hot food and cold drinks at the end of a hike. Yeah.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (10:26)
Yeah, I love that. Yeah, that needs

to be something that we need to establish here. So that’s a really big difference, though. Now, do you this is going to be difficult question, I feel like, because everyone has favorites. as you’ve been hiking, you know, in these various countries, do you have like any favorite trails that if someone was going like to that specific area of like, you have to do this?

Lindsey (10:31)
Yeah, yeah,

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I definitely have a few favorites. It is hard to pick favorites, but in nearby Garmisch, there’s a town just over the border in Austria called Erwald. And Erwald has a couple of our like most favorite hikes. There’s one that’s great for families that we did several times with the kids. And it’s a waterfall hike, but along the trail are different like activities.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (11:10)
Ooh.

Lindsey (11:14)
that the kids have to do to find numbers at each station. And it makes like a special code. And when you get the code, you can take it to the tourist office and they’ll give the kids a little pin. So it’s very fun to have like little activities or games to do along the way. That’s also helps the hiking motivation for the kids. So that’s, that was one of our favorites for sure. And then also their, ⁓

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (11:17)
That’s fun, I love that.

That’s cool.

Mm-hmm.

Definitely.

Lindsey (11:39)
One of my favorites at the top of that mountain near that waterfall hike is ⁓ a hike where you go to two lakes, the Sabin Sey and then you can go up a little bit farther to another lake called the Dracon Sey. And it’s just, I mean, beautiful, pristine alpine lakes. It’s just stunning. So ⁓ those are definitely a couple of my favorites. There’s a few gorge hikes in Garmisch. ⁓ The Holenthal Clam is amazing.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (11:51)
Mm-hmm.

Lindsey (12:08)
Especially if you can go like in the spring after when the snow is kind of melting because then the rivers really rushing through there. It’s very impressive. One of our favorite hikes we did in Switzerland was from Männlichen to the Kleine Scheidegg. Hopefully I’m saying that close, but sometimes people know Männlichen for this playground because it has a huge cow a huge cow slide.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (12:15)
Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

Lindsey (12:36)
But there’s an amazing playground there for the kids. And then you hike along this trail to another train spot. And the views up there are stunning. And the cows with the bells, like it’s just, you know, it’s like that postcard experience of the Alps.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (12:52)
like it’s like

nothing screams Alps like walking along the hills and seeing cows I love that

Lindsey (12:55)
Yeah. And that’s very common.

It’s funny. Like that is really like a thing. ⁓ you know, my kids know, I love the cows. I love the cowbells. Like I love seeing them out there.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (13:06)
spoke with ⁓ two women who live in England and we were just talking about, dangerous animals, when you’re on the trail and she and they were saying like the most dangerous animals on the trail for them were the cows because they could stampede at you.

Lindsey (13:13)
Hmm.

Yeah, it’s true. They can.

I mean, it is a real thing. I think I heard stories, you know, once a year of a hiker getting trampled by a cow. But a lot of times it’s because there’s like a dog involved, like an off leash dog who then spooks the cow. So that’s not a good idea to have your dog off the leash nearby the cows. But for the most part, I think it’s pretty safe. But yeah, I mean, they’re a huge animal. So you have to be a little careful. Yeah.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (13:33)
Gotcha.

Yeah.

Yeah, you got to watch that. I thought that was like kind

of funny, though. I was like, yeah, we have like bears and mountain lions, but you got your cows. OK. everyone has like a this this hike went wrong story. And I know you shared at least one on your social media, but I wasn’t sure if you had any like fun, like that went very wrong hiking stories.

Lindsey (13:48)
No, there’s none of that, just cows, maybe a wayward goat.

I wonder.

The only one I can think of and I have shared it on social media so I’m wondering if it’s the same one. It’s this hike that we did with our friends in Georgia. We did it with no kids and ⁓ we were like walking up like the side of a river and the river was kind of high and we were like, ⁓ don’t want to.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (14:10)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Lindsey (14:30)
walk through there and get our feet all wet and our socks all wet. Like let’s go off the trail a little bit this way and then we’ll just like connect back with the path like another way. Well, we that didn’t work very well and we ended up getting ourselves kind of like cornered into this spot where we had to traverse a log that was like over the river. But it was like too high and too scary to just like walk across it. So we all were like

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (14:45)
You

Lindsey (14:59)
sitting down on the log and like scooting our butts across to try and forage our way across the river. So that was like the one that sticks out in my head. I don’t know if that’s the same one that you’re thinking of.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (15:10)
Yeah, I I saw that video the video

of you guys like straddling the log and trying to like maneuver yourself across I was cracking up I was like she needs to tell this story because yeah, we’ve we’ve all been there. We’ve all like oh wait. I don’t want to go this way Let me Yeah, yeah, of course

Lindsey (15:16)
Yes. Yeah. ⁓ yeah.

Yeah, it like, seemed like a good idea at the time. Like, surely we don’t, you know, and we ended up getting wet anyway, because further down we had to cross

the water. So it was a fool’s errand, that one. But very funny and very glad we had our phones ready for each other.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (15:41)
Yeah, and at least

it wasn’t, you know, anything that like put you in like imminent danger or anything, so…

Lindsey (15:45)
No, no, no. Thankfully

I haven’t had anything crazy like that. ⁓ there was one other hike with my husband in Switzerland a long time ago when we just had our daughter, she was like three months old. ⁓ and we took the cable car up, I think it was Mount Pilatus and then we decided to hike down, but we didn’t like really know where we were going. And I think we got off the trail that we intended to be on.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (15:58)
Mm-hmm.

Lindsey (16:15)
And so, you know, I’m thinking like, okay, it’s getting late. This is taking longer than it was supposed to. We don’t exactly know where we are. We’re going to be like those dumb Americans who like got stranded on the mountain with a baby. Like it wasn’t that bad. We made it down and just had to like, luckily things are so well connected there that we made it down to the wrong place. Not where we parked, but we just hop on the train to take us to the parking lot where we did park. So it turned out okay, but.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (16:21)
Yeah.

…

Oh, that’s good.

Lindsey (16:44)
I was very frustrated in that hike down. Like, why did we do this?

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (16:46)
Yes, and. And also like more scary because you do you have a young child with you. I always feel like that like amplifies it, you know, it’s just you. You’re like, OK, like I’ll make it through. But you’re like, hold on, I have a child with me. I would make sure they survive. We all have those moments, though we do. We definitely have them.

Lindsey (16:53)
Yeah, it was like.

Right.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Not our finest moment, but we made it.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (17:10)
do you have like any bucket list trails right now going on that you have like, I want to go here this weekend or take a trip here or because you can get around Europe, Eastern Europe pretty easily, correct?

Lindsey (17:11)
Yeah.

Well…

Yeah,

I mean, Europe is very well connected, very easy to get around here. We’re a bit more remote and ⁓ I live in Ankara ⁓ and so we can get around Turkey very easily, but getting out of Turkey, a lot of times we have to fly through Istanbul and it’s not quite as easy. ⁓ Cappadocia has some really nice hiking ⁓ here and we’ve done a little bit of that, but I was thinking like…

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (17:27)
Okay.

Gotcha. Okay.

Mm-hmm.

Lindsey (17:47)
It would be fun to do something totally different, like some tropical hiking in Hawaii or like to a volcano or something like that, because that’s really different than ⁓ what we’ve been doing. But there’s a few via ferrata that I would like to do in Europe. ⁓ There’s one in Murin, which is kind of in the same area as the Manlykin hike I was talking about earlier, but it looks really cool. ⁓ there’s a lot of

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (17:51)
yeah.

⁓ yes.

Lindsey (18:14)
via ferrata trails in the Dolomites and you can do like hut to hut so where it’s like multi-day and you stay the night I think that would be really fun.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (18:23)
Now is that something you think you could do with the kids or would that be like an adults only kind of trip?

Lindsey (18:27)
Yes,

I think you could do it with the kids. I don’t know if my youngest one is there yet. I just don’t know if he has like the stamina for that. They’ve all tried via ferrata. so I also worked for a nonprofit ⁓ and we have camps in the summer for Ukrainian military families who’ve been like affected by the war. So we bring them out to the Austrian Alps and we do like a week of healing.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (18:35)
Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Lindsey (18:54)
through a combination of mountain climbing and psychoeducational modules. It’s amazing, it’s amazing. And this summer, my family actually got to come with me and participate. So there’s Via Ferrata routes that we do on that. And so they’ve all been able to try it and they did well with it. My little one got a little scared on this one that we did, because it’s very dramatic. There’s a Via Ferrata across the face of a dam. And it’s not hard physically, but it’s

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (18:57)
That’s a nice program.

Okay? I was gonna say… Yeah.

Okay.

Lindsey (19:24)
looks very intimidating. Yes, yes. ⁓ So I think my kids need to do just like a bit more practice before they did something like that, but I totally think they could do it.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (19:25)
Like mentally, it’s like a little like intimidating, yeah.

Gotcha.

Yeah, we have in West Virginia, there’s a VF or out of there and I have my eye on it and I was actually very close to it this over the Memorial Day weekend and I thought I could maybe bring the kids, but they have an age minimum of 13 and my daughter was 12. So I was like, well, maybe next summer. I’m like looking at videos of it and my husband’s like, you think she’s going to do that? I’m like, I don’t know, maybe.

Lindsey (19:42)
I’ve seen that, yeah.

Yeah.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (20:05)
I’m like, she’s more capable than we think.

Lindsey (20:05)
But that’s

very true. like the same thing I was saying about the hiking, like when I lived in Garmisch, I was too afraid to try Via Ferrata. I was scared of heights. My friend tried to get me to go and I’m like, Sarah, you don’t know me very well then because I’m terrified. I’m never going to do that. But then I started working with this foundation, Mountain Seed Foundation, and it’s kind of like, well, I guess we’re going to do this now.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (20:16)
Mm-hmm.

Lindsey (20:33)
Like I never thought that I would, but once you

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (20:33)
Like I kind of have to. Yeah.

Lindsey (20:36)
like just kind of do it and try, like you surprise yourself with what you can do.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (20:41)
Not that it’s

the same, we have, you know, the ropes courses and stuff, you know, through the trees and everything. And you’re still connected. Right. And so it’s the same thing. Like, you’re so, like, intimidated by it. And then you’re like, wait, I could like literally just hang here. Nothing’s going to happen to me.

Lindsey (20:46)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yes. Yeah, you’ll be okay. I just did

one of these with my kids back in Garmish. We just went for a visit. ⁓ And so there’s a ropes course like that there. And I had never done it before. Because like I said, I was too scared when I lived there. ⁓ But I took the kids by myself and we were having fun. But then it came to this one part where you literally just had to jump off a platform. I was like, I don’t want to do it. I don’t want to do it. My kids were like,

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (21:04)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, yeah, it’s intimidating.

Guess.

Lindsey (21:22)
coaching me, you can do it mom, just jump, just jump. So they counted me down and finally I did it. It is. Yes.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (21:24)
It’s just like, again, it’s that mental, right? Because like, you know, you’re safe, like, like they’re not

going to make you do anything that’s going to hurt you. But it’s just that mental, like, can I mentally force myself off this platform?

Lindsey (21:33)
Right. No.

Yes, it’s the

mental block. It’s the mental challenges that are the hardest.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (21:43)
Yeah, well

the Via Ferrata sounds fun though, especially the Hut to Hut. I think I would enjoy that and I would have to… I could easily convince my son to do it, but my daughter I think might… would need convincing for that. ⁓

Lindsey (21:46)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, it’s definitely

something I think you need to like work up to like you wouldn’t want to embark on that without like, you know, having some, yeah, yeah, some experience first to make sure you’re ready for it.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (21:59)
Mm-hmm.

any kind of training.

Yeah.

I do appreciate your time. I know you’re busy with the kids and everything and the time difference. I know it’s almost like dinner time for you. So I’m going to, you know, wrap up with this question. But if you could only do one kind of hike for the rest of your life, would you do a hike that leads to a view like an overlook hike or would you do hikes that lead to waterfalls?

Lindsey (22:11)
you

Mm-hmm.

Hmm. I would probably pick a view. think I would pick. Yeah. Yeah. That’s hard though. Yeah, I would, I would take the view where I can sit on the patio with my Aperol spritz. That’s, that’s the one I’m going for.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (22:31)
View, okay. Well, it’s because you have restaurants up there.

I mean, I’d do a view too if I was like, well, I’m gonna climb up there, get the view, get a, you know, yeah, get your Aperol spritz and then take the gondola back down. I’d be good to go. I don’t blame you for that though. I don’t blame you for that. ⁓ Again, thank you. And before I let you go, cause you are on social media. and do you have a website? Yes.

Lindsey (22:45)
Ha

Yeah, that’s right.

Yes. It’s

the same name, Abroadwife.com.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (23:06)
Abroadwife.com for your website and then you are Abroadwife on Instagram.

Lindsey (23:08)
Yep. At my Broadway fear.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (23:11)
Well, Lindsay, again, thank you so much for your time talking to me about hiking in Europe and all your adventures. also your photos are so incredible, too. Like, I love all the the scenery that you post on Instagram. when your posts come up, I’m like, where is she now? Like, what is she doing? So so please please keep posting for people like me so I can live vicariously. Yeah.

Lindsey (23:14)
Thanks, Lauren.

Thank you.

thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. Okay. I’ll go edit some photos right now.

Lauren – Her Side Of The Trail (23:36)
But thank

you again and and yeah and have have fun adventuring and if you do that via ferrata I’m gonna be very jealous. So Yep.

Lindsey (23:45)
Thanks, Lauren. Good to talk to

you.